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Friday, May 16, 2008

Vaccine Information - Straight from CDC's Website

My doctors have always told me that vaccines are safe. I know that most everyone has heard the same thing. They sometimes tell you that there are some risks, but no one had ever explained what kinds of risks. I think we have all just trusted our doctors and our government that if they said something was safe, then it was.

I read information on their website about most of the vaccines that are given. All of them mentioned a few side effects, but the MMR, DTaP and the chicken pox vaccine had the most side effects and the worst side effects. When it came to the Hepatitis B, polio and Hib side effects, there were few and they were not as serious.

This will be a lot of info, but I am going to paste them below so you can read them. I will highlight the bad side effects..

MMR vaccine side-effects
(Measles, Mumps, and Rubella)

A vaccine, like any medicine, is capable of causing serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions. The risk of MMR vaccine causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small.


Most people who get MMR vaccine do not have any problems with it.

Mild Problems

* Fever (up to 1 person out of 6)
* Mild rash (about 1 person out of 20)
* Swelling of glands in the cheeks or neck (rare)
If these problems occur, it is usually within 7-12 days after the shot. They occur less often after the second dose.

Moderate Problems

* Seizure (jerking or staring) caused by fever (about 1 out of 3,000 doses)
* Temporary pain and stiffness in the joints, mostly in teenage or adult women (up to 1 out of 4)
* Temporary low platelet count, which can cause a bleeding disorder (about 1 out of 30,000 doses)

Severe Problems (Very Rare)

* Serious allergic reaction (less than 1 out of a million doses)
* Several other severe problems have been known to occur after a child gets MMR vaccine. But this happens so rarely, experts cannot be sure whether they are caused by the vaccine or not. These include:
o Deafness
o Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
o Permanent brain damage

So, notice that it says that these severe problems have been known to occur after child gets MMR. It then says that they believe it is rare (are they calling every parent after there child gets a shot to find out if there was a reaction?). Then it says experts CANNOT BE SURE whether these serious side effects including permanent brain damage are caused by the vaccine or not. So what is all this I hear about there being no link between neurological disorders (Autism, ADHD, Aspergers, etc)? It looks to me like they are NOT SURE.

So then, it has this little note at the bottom:

Note: The first dose of MMRV vaccine - - - (that is MMR + chicken pox)
has been associated with rash and higher
rates of fever than MMR and varicella
vaccines given separately. Rash has been
reported in about 1 person in 20 and fever
in about 1 person in 5.
Seizures caused by a fever are also reported
more often after MMRV. These usually
occur 5-12 days after the first dose.

Okay, so if it states right here that seizures occur more often when MMR and chicken pox are given together and that the rates of fever and rashes are higher when they are given together, why is it that we keep hearing that it doesn't make a difference if you give multiple shots at the same time? I have heard that dozens of times - yet this clearly states that there are worse reactions when they combine these vaccines!

Also notice that it says that the FIRST DOSE of these vaccines are associated with these problems. So the first does is given to our kids at 12 months - where pretty much EVERY doctor in the nation is giving the MMR and chicken pox on the same day. If that is the case, 1 in 5 of those children get a fever after the shots. That is a very high number if you ask me. If you look up information about fevers, it will tell you that if they get too high, they can cause seizures and brain damage.

Now, lets look at the chicken pox vaccine:

Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine side-effects
What are the risks from chickenpox vaccine?

Getting chickenpox vaccine is much safer than getting chickenpox disease. Most people who get chickenpox vaccine do not have any problems with it. (How do they know that? Have they done a study on the whole nation?)

However, a vaccine, like any medicine, is capable of causing serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions. The risk of chickenpox vaccine causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small.

Mild Problems

* Soreness or swelling where the shot was given (about 1 out of 5 children and up to 1 out of 3 adolescents and adults)
* Fever (1 person out of 10, or less)
* Mild rash, up to a month after vaccination (1 person out of 20, or less). It is possible for these people to infect other members of their household, but this is extremely rare.

Note: MMRV vaccine has been associated with higher rates of fever (up to about 1 person in 5) and measles-like rash (about 1 person in 20) compared with MMR and varicella vaccines given separately. (Here is that same note again.....)

Moderate Problems

* Seizure (jerking or staring) caused by fever (less than 1 person out of 1,000).

Severe Problems

* Pneumonia (very rare)

Other serious problems, including severe neurological problems (brain reactions) and low blood count, have been reported after chickenpox vaccination. These happen so rarely, however, that experts cannot tell whether they are caused by the vaccine or not. If they are, it is extremely rare.

Okay, so let's sum up:

1. MMR vaccine has been known to cause:

  • Fever
  • Seizures
  • bleeding disorder
  • Serious allergic reaction
  • Deafness
  • Long-term seizures
  • coma
  • lowered consciousness
  • Permanent Brain Damage
2. Chicken Pox Vaccine has been known to cause:

  • Seizure (Jerking or Staring - caused by fever)
  • pneumonia
  • Severe neurological problems (brain reactions)
  • Low blood count
3. The first (12 month) dose of these two vaccines if given together has been shown to cause higher rates of children to get a rash (1 in 20), a fever (1 in 5) and seizures CAUSED BY A FEVER. If it increases seizures then that, in turn, can increase brain damage and neurological disorders such as ADHD, Aspergers, Autism and other spectrum disorders.

So, I am wondering why EVERY doctor (there may be a few that don't...) gives EVERY 12-15 month old baby both of these vaccines on the SAME DAY!!!???

Does the CDC and the doctors not even read what they post on their website? Why do so many doctors say that it doesn't matter if you give multiple shots on the same day, when they KNOW that there are worse effects when they are given together? That being said, how many other vaccines have worse effects when given together? We know that Hannah Poling received 9 shots on the same day and the courts have conceded the fact that those vaccines were what "triggered" her autism.

So, how can anyone say that there is no harm in giving multiple shots on the same day? Also, some effects may not show until later when people notice that their child has regressed, stopped talking, stopped responding or changed or have more health problems than they used to. There are no studies done in the months or years later to see if these children are okay. The studies consist of parents writing down if there child gets a fever, gets a rash, gets red around the injection site, etc. during the 1st month after the vaccine (I know, because Wyatt was in one).... No one except the parents of 1 in 150 kids knows what happens later...

It looks as though the other really bad one is the DTaP (which is given at 2, 4, 6 and 15 months as well as at 4-6 years old...) Each of those times, it is given at the same time as 4-6 other vaccines.

DTaP vaccine side-effects

Getting diphtheria, tetanus or pertussis disease is much riskier than getting DTaP vaccine.

However, a vaccine, like any medicine, is capable of causing serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions. The risk of DTaP vaccine causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small.

Mild Problems (Common)

* Fever (up to about 1 child in 4)
* Redness or swelling where the shot was given (up to about 1 child in 4)
* Soreness or tenderness where the shot was given (up to about 1 child in 4)

These problems occur more often after the 4th and 5th doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses.

Sometimes the 4th or 5th dose of DTaP vaccine is followed by swelling of the entire arm or leg in which the shot was given, for 1 to 7 days (up to about 1 child in 30).

Other mild problems include:

* Fussiness (up to about 1 child in 3)
* Tiredness or poor appetite (up to about 1 child in 10)
* Vomiting (up to about 1 child in 50)

These problems generally occur 1 to 3 days after the shot.

Moderate Problems (Uncommon)

* Seizure (jerking or staring) (about 1 child out of 14,000)
* Non-stop crying, for 3 hours or more (up to about 1 child out of 1,000)
* High fever, 105 degrees Fahrenheit or higher (about 1 child out of 16,000) - that will cause seizures!

Severe Problems (Very Rare)
Serious allergic reaction (less than 1 out of a million doses) Several other severe problems have been reported after DTaP vaccine. These include:

* Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
* Permanent brain damage.

These are so rare it is hard to tell if they are caused by the vaccine.

So - again - lots of bad side effects from a vaccine that is given with multiple other vaccines that cause similar side effects.

So - if we give our little babies anywhere from 4-6 of these "harmless" vaccines with these side effects at the same time at such young ages you are telling me that nothing is going to happen? It is simple math to me. If each of these vaccines causes a fever (which they all d0) and can cause seizures and even permanent brain damage, then wouldn't giving someone 4 vaccines at the same time that can cause all of those things triple the chances of them having some of those bad side effects? And for that matter, wouldn't that cause the side effects to be more harmful as well?

Okay, so I will quickly show a few other vaccines and their side effects:


Hepatitis B vaccine side-effects

Most people who get hepatitis B vaccine do not have any problems with it.

Mild problems

* soreness where the shot was given, lasting a day or two (up to 1 out of 11 children and adolescents, and about 1 out of 4 adults)
* mild to moderate fever (up to 1 out of 14 children and adolescents and 1 out of 100 adults)

Severe problems

* serious allergic reaction (very rare)

Not too bad....

Hib vaccine side-effects


Most people who get Hib vaccine do not have any problems with it.

Mild Problems

* Redness, warmth, or swelling where the shot was given (up to 1 out of 4 children)
* Fever over 101 degrees Fahrenheit (up to 1 out of 20 children) (That is better than 105!)

If these problems happen, they usually start within a day of vaccination. They may last 2 to 3 days.

Again, not so bad...

So, because it is 1:00 in the morning and I still have a lot of work to do, I will stop for now... (I know you are all disappointed....)

But just a few notes to leave with you:

Vaccines still have bad ingredients in them: Chick Embryo Fibroblasts, Human
Serum Albumin, Aluminum Phosphate, Ammonium Sulfate, Formaldehyde, etc. etc. (again, from CDC website..)

Autism and related disorders were almost non -existent 20 years ago, yet now they are everywhere. 1 in 150 children are diagnosed with Autism - but how many kids don't they know about? There is no documentation as to Wyatt's condition and I can bet that there are thousands of children that are undiagnosed - especially all of those children who can't afford to be evaluated in the first place. I know many mothers that have waited for 2 years to even see a doctor that could officially "diagnose" their child. So if that is the case, how many children are on that waiting list? It is safe to assume that there are quite a few (personally I think there are a lot) of undiagnosed children out there. So, what does that make the rate? 1 in 100?

Currently, ASA estimates that the lifetime cost of caring for a child with autism ranges from $3.5 million to $5 million. WOW - that is crazy! If that is true, how can anyone afford to care for their child? And what about the families that have 3, 4, 5, and even 6 kids with Autism? Also, this says "cost of caring", it does not specifically state that this figure includes actual treatments - behavioral, medical, etc. etc.

How is all of this for depressing?

Again, this is why we are going to D.C. Vaccines are a problem. There are too many. They should not be given together, they should remove harmful ingredients, blah blah blah... you know the rest.

For those of you that don't know, Wyatt was given the "proquad" shot which was MMR and chicken pox in the same needle when he was 14 months old. Shortly after his shots he broke out in a rash all over his body and had a fever. Within 2 months, he stopped waiving and saying "bye", he stopped saying ma ma, he lost eye contact, he stopped responding to his name, he just stopped. He was NOT born with Autism. He was a typically developing little boy who met all of his milestones, had great eye contact, was social, and was learning as he should. His story is the same as tens of thousands of parents that say the same thing happened to their child. This is NOT a coincidence. This did NOT happen 20 years ago. This is NOT okay.

Now, 2 years later, after a lot of treatment (40 hours a week of therapy, 8 or more supplements a day, a VERY restrictive diet, etc. etc.) he can waive and say bye, he has started to respond to his name and he can even give kisses (rarely). He still only has about 3 words - only one of which he uses in the proper context. He should be getting ready to start preschool, he should be potty trained, he should be speaking in sentences.

I know I ramble for hours, but I just can't bare these things happening to even ONE More child or ONE more family. It breaks my heart everyday to think about how many families are out there that don't know what to do to help their child or don't have the money or resources to do so. I want to help every one of them. I will if I can.

I do not know everything, but I have researched, read, attended conferences and medical lectures, etc. etc. etc. I believe the things that I have written to be true. If any of you want more information or need help learning about the treatments and ways to help children with Autism, please ask. I will give you all of the information I have and will continue to research and learn as long as I have to. I will NEVER give up on my child.

Please comment if you read this so that we can all share our information and opinions. (Heaven knows I have already shared mine.....)

2 comments:

mandy said...

I found your blog through Heather Spencer's. I used to be in monterey ward a long time ago. Maybe you know my parents Jim & Debi Hoy? Anyways, I have 4 year old twins and an almost 2 year old. My twins are completely up to date on their shots and I'm wondering if I should continue them. After my youngest received her 6 month old shots I kept having unsettling feelings towards vaccines. I have always been a fan of traditional medicine but this feeling was definately something I wasn't going to ignore. Mother's intuition. maybe? So, I havn't given my daughter any more shots because of stories like yours. The thought of that happening breaks my heart and I'm very sorry for what happened to Wyatt. Do you know if there is a certain age when kids are "safe" and won't get autism? Or can it happen to my twins if they receive their 4-6 yr old shots? I would like to continue checking your blog and reading the information you post-if you woudn't mind. You can email me trentandmandy@hotmail.com or leave a comment on my blog. Thank you so much for sharing your story and good luck! Also, what do you know about public schools and mandatory vaccines?

Tom said...

Mandy,

Please be careful. I have a son who is recovering from autism, and he's one of the lucky ones. Some kids, despite the right diet, therapies, etc., just don't really get better.

I have heard of 4 and 5 year olds becoming autistic after booster shots. They won't necessarily call it autism, because that is "supposed" to happen before the age of three, but it *does* happen at later ages.

You can check titers if you are afraid to go without the shots, but don't just blindly give more shots. (They are probably showing antibodies at this point, and if not--more shots probably won't help!)

And there are other risks besides autism, and your doctor will not tell you about that.

Kids often develop asthma, allergies, diabetes, seizures, and other immune disorders after one too many vaccines. It's related, no matter how many times they deny it.

And many of the diseases (chicken pox, flu) are actually less risky than the shots!

I'm not totally against vaccinating, but the more I learn about it, the less of it I want to do.

It already hurt two of my three kids (autism and asthma, both getting much better); they won't get any more shots unless they choose that for themselves when they're grown.

Terri Lewis